Ajith Vijay Kumar
In his first sit-down television interview in 10 years, Congress vice president Rahul Gandhi expressed his views on a number of issues including his vision for India, Gujarat riots and performance of the UPA government under Dr Manmohan Singh.
10 important takeaways:
Whether he is avoiding a direct face-off with Narendra Modi fearing loss
“To understand that question you have to understand a little bit about who Rahul Gandhi is and what Rahul Gandhi`s circumstances have been and if you delve into that you will get an answer to the question of what Rahul Gandhi is scared of and what he is not scared of.”
“In my life I have seen my grandmother die, I have seen my father die, I have seen my grandmother go to jail and I have actually been through a tremendous amount of pain as a child when these things happen to you, what I had to (be) scared of, I lost, there is absolutely nothing I am scared of.”
Rahul`s aim
“I have an aim, I have a clear aim in my mind and the aim is that I do not like what I see in Indian politics, it is something that is inside my heart. It is like in our mythology when they talk about Arjuna, he only sees one thing, he does not see anything else, you asked me about Mr. Modi you ask me about anything and the thing that I see is that the system in this country needs to change, I don`t see anything else and I am blind to everything else. I am blind because I saw people I love destroyed by the system.”
“What Rahul Gandhi wants to do, is Rahul Gandhi and millions of youngsters in this country want to change the way the system in this country works. What Rahul Gandhi wants to do is empower the women in this country, wants to unleash the power of these women, I mean we talk about being a superpower...”
Gujarat riots
“The PM has stated his position on the Gujarat riots. The Gujarat riots took place, people died, Mr. Narendra Modi was in charge of Gujarat at that point. I am bringing you to a real ideological battle that is taking place here. The real ideological battle that is taking place here and the one we are going to win and that has always been one in this country is the battle of empowering people in this country.”
“The difference between the 84 riots and the riots in Gujarat was that in 1984 the Government was trying to stop the riots. I remember, I was a child then, I remember the Government was doing everything it could to stop the riots. In Gujarat the opposite was the case. The Government in Gujarat was actually abetting and pushing the riots further. So there is a huge difference between the two things, saying that innocent people dying is absolutely wrong.”
On apologising for 1984 riots
“Some Congress men were probably involved. There is a legal process through which they have gone through.”
“First of all I wasn`t involved in the riots at all. It wasn`t that I was part of it.”
“I think that (the) riots, as all riots, were a horrible event. Frankly I was not in operation in the Congress party.”
Aam Aadmi Party
“I think that as far as I am concerned that the AAP won an election in Delhi and we thought that we would assist them, because our party felt we should give them a chance to prove themselves and one can see what they are doing and one can see exactly how much they have proved themselves.”
Corruption
“We took action on the corrupt ministers. We have passed a bill in parliament. The Lokpal Bill. The most powerful thing. We got you RTI and we got six bills sitting in Parliament house. We have to change the way the system works. We are always talking about peripheral things. We are never talking about the core reason this system is corrupt. The core reason the season is corrupt is that there is too much concentration of power in the system and people on the peripheries do not have power.”
Changing the system
“My long term view is that we need to take the Indian political system to a different place. We need to bring in youngsters and we need to move away from this concentration of power. Unfortunately the political system today is at a particular place and I can`t simply ignore the fact that the political system is at that place, so certainly there are points at which you might have to take a decision that you are not a 100% happy with but the long term idea for me is to transform the system, to bring in youngsters and make sure they are empowered.”
Vote winning ability
“I would say when we win an election, when we won Uttarakhand, Himachal and when we won Karnataka , I am not involved, when we lose an election I am the cause of it. But once again I think what the Congress Party need to do is tap its potential, what the Congress party needs to do is change the way the its organisation is structured and look at changing the way politics in this country is structured, that is where I think we should head.”
Dynastic politics
“I don`t actually keep invoking my family name, I have mentioned my family name once or twice and then people report that. The real issue is that I didn`t choose to be born in this family, I didn`t sign up and say that I like to be born in this family it happened, so the choice in front of me is pretty simple I can either turn around and say okay I will just walk away from this thing and leave it alone or I can say I can try and improve something.”
“I am absolutely against the concept of Dynasty, anybody who knows me knows that and understands that. But you are not going to wish away Dynasty in a closed system, you have to open the system. Dynasty or children of politicians becoming powerful happens in the BJP, it happens in the DMK, it happens in the SP, it happens in the Congress party, it happens everywhere.”
On personal attacks on him
“I respond by understanding why I`m being attacked. I`m being attacked because I`m doing things that are dangerous to the system. I`m being attacked because I`m asking questions that are dangerous to the system. And I`m not asking superficial questions.”
“...And everybody understands that this fellow here is not just a superficial chap who talks. This fellow over here is thinking deeply and is thinking long term. That`s why I`m attacked. I understand that. And frankly, attack me all you want. Beat me to death. It`s not going to stop me. I`m going to keep doing it.”
